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Revision as of 02:32, 21 June 2022

Map Pages Brainstorming

include reasonings in guide? probably not. too opinionated and people won't get the full point across and thus render them redundant. only do it for concrete points.

go through default/commmon sentences that will be repeated between pages and link Glossary terms (e.g. Rollout)

go through and provide references wherever possible. mp_showroundtimes is a reference for map information section

narrative statements:

  • common feedback on the maps, particularly if it fell out of rotation
  • popularity within a region if it is/was exclusive to a region (e.g. Metalworks NA, logjam EU/AU)

Things that would need to be constantly updated

trigger: new season

  • infobox
  • inclusion table
  • 6v6 maps navbox
  • map pool history if tournament pages aren't kept updated

Intro

  • Default sentence
  • Additional sentences adding normal information if needed
  • Narrative statements, potentially avoiding need for history/other sections

"Product is not a truly symmetrical map"

Gullywash is a 5CP map created by Arnold.


Infobox

  • Title: Gullywash
  • Image: Gullywash.png
  • Map type: 5CP
  • Latest version: cp_gullywash_f9
  • Developers: Arnold
  • First released: XX XXXX 2011
  • Latest update: XX XXXX 2022
  • Official map: Yes
  • alternative names/pro versions
  • Links
    • Download
    • Steam workshop
    • TF2 Maps
    • Gamebanana
    • TFTV
    • Official wiki
    • Official wiki competitive
  • Portal (once functional)

...

history

developmental history, including update history if official? Would have to maintain this so prolly no?? but also it is a way to add words so prolly yes


version history

Map pool history

world championship column?

grey-empty class in Common.css. Use on external links section too

Table

Tournament inclusions
Map version ASEAN Asia Europe Europe North America North America Oceania Oceania
cp_gullywash_f8 ETF2L Season 42
cp_gullywash_f7 AF Cup 20 RGL Season 9 OZF 34
cp_gullywash_f6 ETF2L Season 41 RGL Season 8 OZF 33
cp_gullywash_f4b AF Cup 19
cp_gullywash_f4a ETF2L Season 40
cp_gullywash_f4 OZF 32
cp_gullywash_f3 AF Cup 18 OZF 31
AF Cup 17 OZF 30
cp_gullywash_final1 AF Cup 16 ETF2L Season 39 RGL Season 7 OZF 29
AF Cup 15 ETF2L Season 38 RGL Season 6 OZF 28
AF Cup 14 ETF2L Season 37 RGL Season 5 OZF 27
AF Cup 13 ETF2L Season 36 RGL Season 4 OZF 26
AF Cup 12 ETF2L Season 35 RGL Season 3 OZF 25
AF Cup 11 ETF2L Season 34 RGL Season 2 OZF 24
AF Cup 10 ETF2L Season 33 RGL Season 1 OZF 23
AF Cup 9 ETF2L Season 32 ESEA Season 31 OZF 22
AF Cup 8 ETF2L Season 31 ESEA Season 30 OZF 21
AF Cup 7 ETF2L Season 30 ESEA Season 29 OZF 20
AF Cup 6 ETF2L Season 29 ESEA Season 28 OZF 19
AF Season 5 ETF2L Season 28 ESEA Season 27 OZF 18
ETF2L Season 27 ESEA Season 26 OZF 17
ETF2L Season 26 ESEA Season 25 OZF 16
ETF2L Season 25 ESEA Season 24 OZF 15
ETF2L Season 24 ESEA Season 23 OWL 14
ETF2L Season 23 ESEA Season 22 OWL 13
ETF2L Season 22 ESEA Season 21 OWL 12
ETF2L Season 21 ESEA Season 20 OWL 11
ETF2L Season 20 ESEA Season 19 OWL 10
ETF2L Season 19 ESEA Season 18 OWL 9
ETF2L Season 18 ESEA Season 17 OWL 8
ETF2L Season 17 ESEA Season 16 OWL 7
ETF2L Season 16 ESEA Season 15
ETF2L Season 15 ESEA Season 14
ETF2L Season 14 ESEA Season 13
ETF2L Season 13 ESEA Season 12
ETF2L Season 12 ESEA Season 11
ETF2L Season 11 ESEA Season 10
cp_gullywash_pro ETF2L Season 10 ESEA Season 9 OWL 6
cp_gullywash_imp3 ESEA Season 7 OWL 4
cp_gullywash AF Season 4 ETF2L Season 9 OWL 3
AF Season 3 ETF2L Season 8 ESEA Season 8 OWL 2
AF Season 2 ETF2L Season 7 ESEA Season 6
ETF2L Season 6








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date filename version download

changelog links, notes column?

version history either goes at top or bottom

map league inclusion table does have a comprehensive use. case in point me using them to find if maps from the all maps navbox are 6v6 maps or hl lol maps. just don't think there is a sustainable solution to keep them updated. even just as an infobox entry??

actually, if you are going to include out of rotation maps on the wiki and in the navbox, putting league inclusions is quite necessary. either stricten the criteria for maps (such as "map must be notable/have a defined history in the competitive scene") or have inclusions at least somewhere on the map pages

simply cannot include highlander in everything in this page. would have to create a secondary Gullywash (Highlander) page as this would alter inclusion history, strategy, resources, navbox

two tables. inclusion history and version history.

no version history. I don't want a fucking changelog on a wiki. only need information for maps that have been used in competitive play. do MLIT but with no templates, just a collapsible table. should already be set to collapsed? also don't include this high up the map page if no narrative in the history section. no UGC,

flythrough

Callouts

can also be done with video resources on youtube


map guide/strategy/long list of words

seems to be very prevalent on many map wikis so maybe? [1] [2] no strategy section. there is no such thing as a definitive strategy for like 80% of situations. it is such a fluid topic and can't be written succinctly to the point of being useful.

anything definitive about strategy or map characteristics/unique elements should be added. "Gullywash has only 2 entracnces to mid instead of the traditional 3". "Process mid is very dependent on height on crates". Strategy section is the only thing missing from a complete resource for a map page

Rollouts

Map overview

Large overview image with option to show:

  • Control points
  • Health + ammo packs
  • ...

probably not feasible to do the hover thing. most important thing is to have an overview image somewhere. either in gallery, in own section or in infobox. prolly gallery. is feasible to make an edited overview image with important things marked. but idk

Map information

Gullywash is notable for having the lowest last capture time blah blah blah

Guide info:

  • how to calculate capture times using harmonic number
  • how to find respawn wave time using that mp command idk i forgot
  • find health + ammo packs from either tf2 wiki (unreliable at times) or running around the map
Capture times (seconds)
Multiplier Mid Second Last
x1 19.00 16.00 3.80
x2 12.67 10.67 2.53
x3 10.36 8.73 2.07
x4 9.12 7.68 1.82
x5 8.32 7.01 1.66
x6 7.76 6.53 1.55
x7 7.33 6.17 1.47
x8 6.99 5.89 1.40
x9 6.72 5.66 1.34
x10 6.49 5.46 1.30
x11 6.29 5.30 1.26
Respawn wave times (seconds)
Control points owned by opposing team
1 2 Neutral 3 4
8.9 8.9 8.9 8.9 8.9
Health and ammo packs
Small health Medium health Small ammo Medium ammo
16 6 18 8

Resources

Guide:

  • Video needs more than 1000 views (or maybe 500?)
  • Video needs to represent competitive TF2 well
  • shorten video title for the table (within reason)
  • youtube:
    • _map_ review
    • _map_ rollout
    • rollout.tf _map_
    • _map_ demo review
    • _map_ pov
      • needs comms cause there's always a fuckton
    • _map_ competitive tf2
    • cp__map_ XXXX
  • put prem/invite in tournament area to distinguish between low level demo reviews and high level demo reviews
    • once season structure project is done


Resource Link Date Class Author(s) Tournament
Guides Gullywash Roamer Map Review 12 Oct 2020 Roamericon.png marmaloo
6s Gullywash Maptalk 12 Jun 2019 All classes cyanic
How to TF2 - Scout tips for Gullywash middle 7 Aug 2017 Scouticon.png SVMZI
Cube´s 6vs6 Competitive TF2 Guide - Gullywash Edition 10 Dec 2015 All classes Cube
Callouts cp_gullywash callouts 24 May 2017 All classes rollout.tf
Gullywash Map Callouts 10 Jun 2016 All classes Grizzly Berry
Rollouts cp_gullywash demoman rollout 26 Jul 2016 Demomanicon.png rollout.tf
cp_gullywash roamer rollout 23 Jul 2016 Roamericon.png rollout.tf
cp_gullywash scout rollout 23 Jul 2016 Scouticon.png rollout.tf
cp_gullywash pocket rollout 7 Jul 2016 Pocketicon.png rollout.tf
Pocket Rollout Basics: cp_gullywash_final1 13 Apr 2015 Pocketicon.png b4nny
MGE: Demo#b4nny: Gullywash Demo Rollout 8 Dec 2011 Demomanicon.png MGE, b4nny
Tutorials cp_gullywash sticky traps 28 May 2017 Demomanicon.png rollout.tf
cp_gullywash hiding spots & winger jumps 26 May 2017 All classes rollout.tf
Demo reviews Invite Roamer Demo Review on Gullywash with SOOOOOAPYMEiSTER 23 Nov 2021 Roamericon.png RGL, SOOOOOAPYMEiSTER RGL 6v6 Season 5
kaidus demo review s31 grand finals 10 Jul 2019 All classes kaidus EFT2L 6v6 Season 31
Kaidus Demo Review Upper Bracket Finals 19 Mar 2019 All classes kaidus EFT2L 6v6 Season 31
Subscriber Demo Review: Shiki (cp_gullywash Pocket POV) 21 Jan 2016 Pocketicon.png b4nny ESEA Season 20
seagull roamer demo review #2 22 Oct 2015 Roamericon.png Seagull i52
mike roamer demo review 20 Oct 2015 Roamericon.png Seagull i55
PYYYOUR's Demo Review of Invite Gullywash Matches (Part 1)
PYYYOUR's Demo Review of Invite Gullywash Matches (Part 2) 		21 Jan 2013 Demomanicon.png MR SLIN, PYYYOUR ESEA-I Season 13
POVs RGL S4 Week 5B: jayhyunpae POV vs Wonderwall gullywash 24 Oct 2020 Pocketicon.png jayhyunpae RGL 6v6 Season 4
b4nny POV: froyotech vs Dorsia (RGL-I S3 Playoffs) 1 Aug 2020 Scouticon.png b4nny RGL 6v6 Season 3
RGL S1 Grand Finals arekk POV Map 2 22 Nov 2019 Scouticon.png arekk RGL 6v6 Season 1

Gallery

any images from research that happen to be interesting, such as previous iterations or something idk

Trivia

it is called water because there used to be water u idiot

it is called river because it leads to water

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