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* The [[Scout]] is a highly mobile "clean up" class, used to capture points and move in and out of fights to deal and avoid as much damage as possible. In standard 6v6 play, a team will have 2 Scouts. When playing this class, one will be expected to successfully capture points, control the flank, and be able to clean up the damage put out by your heavy classes ([[Soldier]] and [[Demoman]]). Generally speaking, a Scout will have a high number of kills and a moderate amount of damage - diving in to kill already damaged players is the primary cause of this. Scouts are also often the best candidates for off-classing, depending on the situation. The secret to the Scout class is going into a fight while no one is looking at you.
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The [[Scout]] is a highly mobile "clean up" class, used to capture points and move in and out of fights to deal and avoid as much damage as possible. In standard 6v6 play, a team will have 2 Scouts. When playing this class, one will be expected to successfully capture points, control the flank, and be able to clean up the damage put out by your heavy classes ([[Soldier]] and [[Demoman]]). Generally speaking, a Scout will have a high number of kills and a moderate amount of damage - diving in to kill already damaged players is the primary cause of this. Scouts are also often the best candidates for off-classing, depending on the situation. The secret to the Scout class is going into a fight while no one is looking at you.
  
 
== Midfights ==
 
== Midfights ==
  
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* Playing Scout properly at a midfight involves finding the right time to go in. The start of a midfight has all 6 players on both teams staring right at each other, so going in first will result in instant and painful death. Staying at a range where one can easily avoid damage is key. The best time to enter the fight is when the team is sufficiently distracted so that the player may get into close range without being detected or shot at. The longer the Scout(s) survive at mid, the better chance a team has at winning. Their value goes up as time goes on because of their ability to clean up fights. Every time an enemy player dies, a Scout's usefulness increases. It's much easier to fight as a Scout in a 3v3 rather than a 6v6. Find the right time to enter the fight and work off of a teammate's damage.
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Playing Scout properly at a midfight involves finding the right time to go in. The start of a midfight has all 6 players on both teams staring right at each other, so going in first will result in instant and painful death. Staying at a range where one can easily avoid damage is key. The best time to enter the fight is when the team is sufficiently distracted so that the player may get into close range without being detected or shot at. The longer the Scout(s) survive at mid, the better chance a team has at winning. Their value goes up as time goes on because of their ability to clean up fights. Every time an enemy player dies, a Scout's usefulness increases. It's much easier to fight as a Scout in a 3v3 rather than a 6v6. Find the right time to enter the fight and work off of a teammate's damage.
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== Roles ==
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In a 6v6 game, once the midfight ends, and you are alive, AND the enemy team has successfully backed out, the Scout's goal is to watch the flank. The flank is simply the alternate route between two different control points, whereas the choke is the main route. In the flank, a Scout can either play defensively - prevent the enemy from flanking the combo, or offensively - try to get a pick and overrun the flank with the team's [[Roaming Soldier]] - advantage, and ultimately wiping or driving out the enemy team.
  
 
== Offclassing ==
 
== Offclassing ==
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While a Scout is one of the most powerful classes in the game, there are a variety of situations in which playing one of the less used classes can be beneficial. On the last point of an average [[5-CP]] map, for example, a Scout is not nearly as useful as he is in other areas of the map where it is easier to roam freely. In these situations, a Scout can choose any of the following.
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While a Scout is one of the most powerful classes in the game, there are a variety of situations in which playing one of the less used classes can be beneficial. On the last point of an average [[5-CP]] map, for example, a Scout is not nearly as useful as he is in other areas of the map where it is easier to roam freely. In these situations, a Scout can change class to achieve a particular goal.
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== Playstyles ==
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There are 2 different playstyles widely recognized in 6v6, pocket scout or flank scout. A pocket scout will stick with the medic and take a lot of the heals while only going for kills if there is an opening. A flank scout is the opposite, the player will be as aggressive as possible and that player will rush into the enemy to get the pick the team needs.
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== Resources ==
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=== General Guides ===
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* {{SteamGuide|118485045|text=MR SLIN Essential Tips for Scout in 6v6 Competitive TF2}}
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* {{YouTube video|f0PIQOYfzlo|text=Sal's newbie Scout guide}}
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* {{YouTube video|V0ZNBQMdolo|text=Competitive Scout Basics by Shlaner}}
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* {{YouTube video|opJMTfataIA|text=Competitive Scout Guide by eC?Forsaken Part 1 of 2}}
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* {{YouTube video|Adfy4g8joII|text=Competitive Scout Guide by eC?Forsaken Part 2 of 2}}
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* {{YouTube video|3ZEx5vc_hU4|text=Marxist's 9 Precepts of Scout}}
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* {{YouTube video|svCmXhYxMGc|text=MyGamingEdge: Scout#Clockwork: Scout Basics}}
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* {{YouTube video|VOjRCegKWFc|text=MyGamingEdge: Scout#yz50: Mid Fights as Scout}}
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* {{YouTube video|rasYqivAppA|text=MyGamingEdge: Scout#Jh: Back Capping as Scout}}
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* {{YouTube video|6z-DhjfZBKY|text=Scatter School - Ep. 1: Decision Making}}
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* {{YouTube video|H4EcJIayWZ8|text=Scatter School - Ep. 2: Scout Buddies}}
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* {{YouTube video|KNK_eQhKFtk|text=Scatter School - Ep. 3: Team Communication}}
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* {{YouTube video|IuKbyJb-DWAt|text=Flank Scout - A Short and Simple Guide by arekk}}
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=== Map Analysis ===
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* {{YouTube video|RR-34gDuP_0|text=Gullywash Mentoring session with invite scout Cyzer}}
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* {{YouTube video|K-WKNSVWOi0|text=Badlands basic scout positioning by Starkie}}
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* {{YouTube video|1ZGzO3ZRfCI|text=Scatter School - Ep. 5: Mid Overview - Process}}
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=== Demo Reviews ===
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* {{YouTube video|Dl1Hkh0-2QA|text=Scatter School - Ep. 1.1: Self Demo Review Part 1/2 - Metalworks}}
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* {{YouTube video|TbxCQpgPODw|text=Scatter School - Ep. 1.1: Self Demo Review Part 2/2 - Metalworks}}
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* {{YouTube video|V7SQ32PiXlg|text=Scatter School - Ep. 4: Mentor Session Summary - Process Demo Review}}
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* {{YouTube video|BM4afNYimfY|text=Ascent Yomps on Viaduct by MR. SLIN}}
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=== POVs ===
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==== Badlands ====
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* {{YouTube video|j2U5s3DPqrM|text=ETF2L Prem - Crack Clan vs Relic - (EstaniS)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|tTgC06LWIng|text=ESEA-Invite S19 - Froyotech vs Ascent - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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==== Viaduct ====
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* {{YouTube video|JEU41CNSs58|text=ESEA-Invite S13 - bp. vs Classic Mixup - (Shrugger)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|Y5Jj0euhYpg|text=ESEA-Invite S19 - Froyotech vs Street Hoops - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|9uhSaEmlEMA|text=ESEA-Invite S19 - Froyotech vs Attack of the Yomies - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|9R66vyJBOnw|text=UGC Platinum S18 - ForChingoo vs ^Greatness - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|UQWFQresoD8|text=UGC Platinum S18 - ForChingoo vs Subliminal- (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|x6PkaDGZdwU|text=ESEA-Invite S18 - Froyotech vs Mad Men - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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==== Granary ====
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* {{YouTube video|JaQcNtM4fAM|text=ETF2L Prem - relic vs CKRAS - (Bybben)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|HkA_wsQ8JGE|text=ESEA-Invite S14 - HRG vs Tri Hards - (Shrugger)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|kkVjzHpuUaQ|text=ESEA-Invite S19 - Froyotech vs Champagne and Cocaine - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|ctPcaAUMm6c|text=ESEA-Invite S18 - Froyotech vs Ascent - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|zmT3MiTb_rw|text=UGC Platinum S18 Finals - ForChingoo vs ^Greatness - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|4SM2K_teg0I|text=ESEA-Invite S18 - Froyotech vs Street Hoops - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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==== Gullywash ====
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* {{YouTube video|-XPpXEi8u5Q|text=ETF2L Prem - Crack Clan vs Relic - (HarryHook)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|FeZ_aIeu1rc|text=ETF2L Prem S11 - Yoyotech vs Epsilon - (TviQ)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|JaWg6hjZebI|text=ESEA-Invite S19 - Froyotech vs Five Dollar Club - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|6zERA3IhN8c|text=ESEA-Invite S19 - Froyotech vs Ding Dong Daddies (Attack of the Yomies) - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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==== Sunshine ====
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* {{YouTube video|Iz92pmOXjIg|text=ESEA-Invite S19 - Froyotech vs Ascent - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|doQ0Zkvkk40|text=UGC Platinum S18 - ForChingoo vs Omnipotent - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|0r5N8NsdLbI|text=ESEA-Invite S19 - Froyotech vs The Grime - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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==== Snakewater ====
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* {{YouTube video|LCNWvW6KoDA|text=ESEA-Invite S19 - Froyotech vs Cafe Monster - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|mebRASEgZNc|text=ESEA-Invite S18 - Froyotech vs Mad Men - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|BnpJL9JWGFI|text=UGC Platinum S18 - ForChingoo vs Altitude's Cows - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|w3IwCrrm6-Q|text=ESEA-Invite S19 - Froyotech vs Ding Dong Daddies (Attack of the Yomies) - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|DJrPNY8P-no|text=ESEA-Invite S18 - Froyotech vs A New Yomie - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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==== Process ====
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* {{YouTube video|wQUzjO1WzsQ|text=ETF2L Prem S13 - Epsilon vs Crack Clan - (Stefan)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|LzGJgGd4PoI|text=ETF2L Prem S14 Grand Finals - Epsilon vs Broder - (Stefan)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|ldT3QDbKQHQ|text=ESEA-Invite S18 - Froyotech vs Mad Men - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|BXbuzRuvLL4|text=ESEA-Invite S19 - Froyotech vs Street Hoops - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|bpwXTLmMW2M|text=ESEA-Invite S18 - Froyotech vs Show Me the Monet - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|YXVtzIryV_o|text=ESEA-Invite S19 - Froyotech vs Attack of the Yomies - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|P-W8drunq-s|text=UGC Platinum S17 - ForChingoo vs Flash Delirium - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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==== Metalworks ====
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* {{YouTube video|UOdHu2Nov1Q|text=ESEA-Invite S19 - Froyotech vs Cafe Monster - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|cnSCJvoBrFk|text=ESEA-Invite S18 - Froyotech vs Ascent - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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* {{YouTube video|tJYWn8eIC9o|text=CEVO-P - Froyotech vs Mix^ - (B4nny)}} ''(Includes team comms)''
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=== Rollouts ===
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* {{YouTube video|V2beSAj_htg|text=B4nny's Scout Rollout Basics: cp_process_final}}
  
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'''[[Heavy]]'''- The highest potential DPS (damage per second) class in the game. Heavy is best played in highly defensive situations. His lack of mobility, compounded with the fact that he is focused greatly once his presence is known, makes him difficult to utilize to great effect during offensive pushes. The best way to use him offensively requires great positioning so that the opposing team cannot run away. If a team is able to keep them all in one place and in the Heavy's line of sight, said Heavy can be highly effective. Places where he is best used include, but are not limited to, last points on 5 CP, defending on A/D maps, defending the point on [[KOTH]] maps, and pushing into certain last points. Additionally, having an ubercharge is almost necessary when using a Heavy to fight. Once a fight has begun, there is no way for a Heavy to disengage. His low mobility and large size make him an easy target. Once he is in, tanking him with the uber is almost a necessity. Scouts, Soldiers, and Demomen all have the ability to escape in some capacity. If played correctly, Heavy is one of the strongest offclasses.
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=== Jumping ===
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* {{YouTube video|cMFErb5Cg94|text=Scout Jumps: cp_granary}}
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* {{YouTube video|VS4uDtkzYmM|text=Scout Jumps: cp_gullywash_final1}}
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* {{YouTube video|GivOM42zM4k|text=Scout Jumps: cp_snakewater_final1}}
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* {{YouTube video|qZcRxXuC3Wk|text=Scout Jumps: cp_badlands}}
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* {{YouTube video|S-qFzPz1hhQ|text=Scout jumps on gullywash middle by hr}}
  
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'''[[Engineer]]''' - Similar in use to the Heavy, but even more situational. He is run almost every single round on defense of [[Gravelpit]], the primary [[A/D]] map, for his Sentry Gun, Dispenser, and Teleporter that can all be set up before the round even starts in order to hold one point. Being able to defend the buildings is crucial, and moving them as pushes begin is the only way to keep them from going down. If the Engineer works with his team, this can all be done smoothly. On an average, more often-played 5 CP and KOTH maps, effectiveness of an Engineer is limited. The time it takes to set up even a single Sentry Gun with only one Engineer often offsets its benefits. It can be used to guard the last point, but it is much easier to destroy than a Heavy, and has no mobility unless moved (taking away all of its firepower). The Engineer is the most situational of all the off-classes, and must be played at only the best times on the best maps.
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== See Also ==
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*[[Scout]]
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*[[Scout (Highlander)]]
  
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'''[[Pyro]]''' - Once again, a class mostly used defensively. The Pyro has underwhelming damage, a very short range, and moderate mobility at best. His utility and usefulness come almost entirely from his airblast mechanic. He can be used in certain situations to flank and deal damage, but this ability is considerably weaker than a Scout's. Because of this, a Pyro is usually run only when defending a last point on 5-CP. The airblast is used to deflect projectiles and hold an uber push in place. This is most useful when at an uber disadvantage. The enemy team ubers in and the Pyro moves forward to airblast them backwards, stalling the push. The player may often die in this scenario, but it can be enough to delay the majority of their invulnerability, evening out the playing field considerably. Pyro isn't weak in and of itself; the other classes are simply stronger. If caught alone, a Pyro can easily be killed by a Scout or Soldier, making positioning very important.
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== References ==
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'''[[Sniper]]''' - One of the most commonly used utility classes. The Sniper's very long range and very high damage can be used to pick off important classes, lock down specific areas, and deny jumping/rushing/suiciding players with ease. Positioning is the most important thing on Sniper (besides being able to hit most of the shots). The Sniper has base movement speed, 125 HP, and poor close range capabilities. If caught out by any other combat class, the Sniper will usually die. The best places to stand are those in which there is as long a sightline as possible towards wherever it is that the enemy will be coming out of, and somewhere where the Sniper can either escape very quickly or can be protected by teammates. A sniper is not usually run at all times, so when switching to it, there is almost 0 threat of being countersniped for the first life. This allows the player to take certain actions and positioning decisions that would be harder if there were a long range threat. A Sniper can be run in many situations depending on the place the team holding on the map and the uber status. Snipers are most commonly run defending against an enemy with uber advantage, during an equal-uber stalemate, or defending/attacking a point with a particularly open sightline. There is no damage spread in competitive play, so a fully charged bodyshot will instantly kill a Medic and an unbuffed Scout. The primary target in 99% of situations will be the [[Medic]]. After that, there are few targets worth holding a shot for. The Demoman is the next most important, but wasting other potential shots and kills is not worth it in most situations. Knowing on what maps to snipe on and when the best time to switch is can win games for the team, so long as someone has the aim to backup the decision making.
 
  
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'''[[Spy]]''' - Similar to the Sniper in his single-target killing power, the Spy is a highly situational "pick class" that excels during stalemates. The Spy lacks a lot of the utility that the Sniper provides, but can be more effective at times where a Sniper has little vision or killing capabilities. The Spy also has excellent scouting power through use of the Cloak and Dagger item. Choosing Spy at the right time is the most important part of the class. Once played him once in a game, the enemy will be much more careful for the rest of that game. The first stab is the most effective. In an ideal situation, the Spy won't even be seen by the enemies until an enemy player is killed. Because of the high levels of communication and low amount of players in a game, disguises are very unreliable and will not fool most players. Additionally, it is unwise to disguise as anything other than the main 6v6 classes (Scout, Soldier, Medic, Demo). The natural speed of a Scout and Medic will give the player away as a fake instantly, and disguising as Soldiers and Demos will cripple the Spy's movement speed. Due to all of this, the best watch to take when going for kills is the standard Invis Watch. It will get the Spy behind them the furthest and fastest. When trying to scout out the enemy position, attempt a back cap, or do anything that requires more than 15 or so seconds of invisibility, the Cloak and Dagger is best. This can be used to invade the last point on a map and simply watch, or wait for them to push out and attempt a cap. Going spy at the right time in a game is the primary deciding factor in its usefulness.
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The Scout is a highly mobile "clean up" class, used to capture points and move in and out of fights to deal and avoid as much damage as possible. In standard 6v6 play, a team will have 2 Scouts. When playing this class, one will be expected to successfully capture points, control the flank, and be able to clean up the damage put out by your heavy classes (Soldier and Demoman). Generally speaking, a Scout will have a high number of kills and a moderate amount of damage - diving in to kill already damaged players is the primary cause of this. Scouts are also often the best candidates for off-classing, depending on the situation. The secret to the Scout class is going into a fight while no one is looking at you.

Midfights[edit]

Playing Scout properly at a midfight involves finding the right time to go in. The start of a midfight has all 6 players on both teams staring right at each other, so going in first will result in instant and painful death. Staying at a range where one can easily avoid damage is key. The best time to enter the fight is when the team is sufficiently distracted so that the player may get into close range without being detected or shot at. The longer the Scout(s) survive at mid, the better chance a team has at winning. Their value goes up as time goes on because of their ability to clean up fights. Every time an enemy player dies, a Scout's usefulness increases. It's much easier to fight as a Scout in a 3v3 rather than a 6v6. Find the right time to enter the fight and work off of a teammate's damage.

Roles[edit]

In a 6v6 game, once the midfight ends, and you are alive, AND the enemy team has successfully backed out, the Scout's goal is to watch the flank. The flank is simply the alternate route between two different control points, whereas the choke is the main route. In the flank, a Scout can either play defensively - prevent the enemy from flanking the combo, or offensively - try to get a pick and overrun the flank with the team's Roaming Soldier - advantage, and ultimately wiping or driving out the enemy team.

Offclassing[edit]

Main article: Offclassing

While a Scout is one of the most powerful classes in the game, there are a variety of situations in which playing one of the less used classes can be beneficial. On the last point of an average 5-CP map, for example, a Scout is not nearly as useful as he is in other areas of the map where it is easier to roam freely. In these situations, a Scout can change class to achieve a particular goal.

Playstyles[edit]

There are 2 different playstyles widely recognized in 6v6, pocket scout or flank scout. A pocket scout will stick with the medic and take a lot of the heals while only going for kills if there is an opening. A flank scout is the opposite, the player will be as aggressive as possible and that player will rush into the enemy to get the pick the team needs.

Resources[edit]

General Guides[edit]

Map Analysis[edit]

Demo Reviews[edit]

POVs[edit]

Badlands[edit]

Viaduct[edit]

Granary[edit]

Gullywash[edit]

Sunshine[edit]

Snakewater[edit]

Process[edit]

Metalworks[edit]

Rollouts[edit]

Jumping[edit]

See Also[edit]

References[edit]

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