Editing User talk:Thesupremecommander

wow, amazing work dude! :) Thanks for helping out!  Any way to add logs to each match? I posted it [http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/5843-i49/15 here] all organized.
--[[User:Kaneco|Kaneco]] ([[User talk:Kaneco|talk]]) 02:26, 24 August 2013 (WEST)
: I've prepared the templates for adding the logs in, it's just a matter of digging in and actually adding all of the logs. I'll do it pretty soon. [[User:Thesupremecommander|Thesupremecommander]] ([[User talk:Thesupremecommander|talk]]) 03:41, 24 August 2013 (WEST)
:: Alright, done for the invite group. I may tackle the open groups (and maybe even i46?) if I have time. CAPTCHAs are a bit annoying though for logs.tf links. [[User:Thesupremecommander|Thesupremecommander]] 
([[User talk:Thesupremecommander|talk]]) 05:20, 24 August 2013 (WEST)
:::Huge thanks! :) Looks awesome! keep up the good work!--[[User:Kaneco|Kaneco]] ([[User talk:Kaneco|talk]]) 10:29, 24 August 2013 (WEST)

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: Sorry about that - the only reason I'm doing it is because it's sometimes hard to get an edit in edgewise with very high edit volume, and that is causing problems when I have to merge the changes over and over again. I'll try not to do it too much, and am already proofreading to make sure there's no errors. [[User:Thesupremecommander|Thesupremecommander]] ([[User talk:Thesupremecommander|talk]]) 13:35, 24 August 2013 (WEST)

== Template:Team results ==

Would it be possible to add a column for VODs? That would be helpful. Thanks [[User:Merchant|Merchant]] ([[User talk:Merchant|talk]])
: I initially had one but removed it in favor of a unified "Info" column, since that would be more flexible to changes in the future than dedicated columns. [[User:Thesupremecommander|Thesupremecommander]] ([[User talk:Thesupremecommander|talk]]) 02:53, 26 August 2013 (WEST)

Oh. That acually makes a lot of sense. Look at how you did it for HRG on the S14 page it makes sense. Okay, thank you![[User:Merchant|Merchant]] ([[User talk:Merchant|talk]])

== Table collapse template ==

Hey, I saw that you created the [[:Template:Table collapse]] template. It's a good idea, but I don't like how the content stretches out the table, so I made [[User:Atlas/Template:Table collapse]]. The toggle is not very responsive now (styling it won't be a problem though) but in my opinion it works better. What do you think? If you agree, I'll implement it later and add proper styling to the toggle so that it looks like a link. (Can't do much about the label, though) —[[User:Atlas|Atlas]] ([[User talk:Atlas|talk]]) 15:13, 27 August 2013 (WEST)

Oh, and I should also probably mention, it's a bit clunky. It needs a unique ID of sorts as the 1st parameter and the content as the 2nd one, because without that, one toggle expands/collapses all the tables. Couldn't find anything better without resorting to even clunkier CSS/custom JS. —[[User:Atlas|Atlas]] ([[User talk:Atlas|talk]]) 15:16, 27 August 2013 (WEST)

: Well, the only thing I don't like is that semantically, it just doesn't make sense, and it doesn't really fit into the flow of the table to have results there like that. The ID also becomes clunky, as I figured out when designing the [[Template:YouTube video]] before I realized embedding videos wasn't possible. I'm not exactly sure what the best solution is in this case. Popovers (example in [http://getbootstrap.com/javascript/#popovers Bootstrap JS] make more sense but they can't really be viewed together. The expansion is clunky, but it makes sense and can be compared with other teams. There's got to be a better way, but what? [[User:Thesupremecommander|Thesupremecommander]] ([[User talk:Thesupremecommander|talk]]) 21:18, 27 August 2013 (WEST)

::I don't really understand what you mean when you say it doesn't make sense semantically. I'm not a design/web expert at all, just a hobbyist, so this is just a question purely out of interest. I personally don't see any other way to integrate the results into the table without completely breaking it, as hover solutions are out of the problem, if we want to be able to show multiple teams' results, and at the moment, the way it expands the left-side cells isn't at all presentable, and even with vertical align set to top it just looks hideous.
::Maybe we should consider moving the results to a different place? Either have a full match record of all teams underneath the standings (works for Liquipedia, but they have a lot less matches to cover), or just move it all to team pages and call it a day? Or make one of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League_2009-10#Results these]? —[[User:Atlas|Atlas]] ([[User talk:Atlas|talk]]) 16:30, 28 August 2013 (WEST)
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 ::I don't really understand what you mean when you say it doesn't make sense semantically. I'm not a design/web expert at all, just a hobbyist, so this is just a question purely out of interest. I personally don't see any other way to integrate the results into the table without completely breaking it, as hover solutions are out of the problem, if we want to be able to show multiple teams' results, and at the moment, the way it expands the left-side cells isn't at all presentable, and even with vertical align set to top it just looks hideous.
 ::Maybe we should consider moving the results to a different place? Either have a full match record of all teams underneath the standings (works for Liquipedia, but they have a lot less matches to cover), or just move it all to team pages and call it a day? Or make one of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League_2009-10#Results these]? —[[User:Atlas|Atlas]] ([[User talk:Atlas|talk]]) 16:30, 28 August 2013 (WEST)
-::: Semantics as in logic, pretty much. What could be done is moving the match records to the team sections within the article where the team rosters are currently listed. I don't think there is a good way to make it work within the table itself. [[User:Thesupremecommander|Thesupremecommander]] ([[User talk:Thesupremecommander|talk]]) 18:18, 28 August 2013 (WEST)
-::::Agreed on both points. —[[User:Atlas|Atlas]] ([[User talk:Atlas|talk]]) 18:59, 28 August 2013 (WEST)