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| | Hey, I saw that you created the [[:Template:Table collapse]] template. It's a good idea, but I don't like how the content stretches out the table, so I made [[User:Atlas/Template:Table collapse]]. The toggle is not very responsive now (styling it won't be a problem though) but in my opinion it works better. What do you think? If you agree, I'll implement it later and add proper styling to the toggle so that it looks like a link. (Can't do much about the label, though) —[[User:Atlas|Atlas]] ([[User talk:Atlas|talk]]) 15:13, 27 August 2013 (WEST) | | Hey, I saw that you created the [[:Template:Table collapse]] template. It's a good idea, but I don't like how the content stretches out the table, so I made [[User:Atlas/Template:Table collapse]]. The toggle is not very responsive now (styling it won't be a problem though) but in my opinion it works better. What do you think? If you agree, I'll implement it later and add proper styling to the toggle so that it looks like a link. (Can't do much about the label, though) —[[User:Atlas|Atlas]] ([[User talk:Atlas|talk]]) 15:13, 27 August 2013 (WEST) |
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| − | Oh, and I should also probably mention, it's a bit clunky. It needs a unique ID of sorts as the 1st parameter and the content as the 2nd one, because without that, one toggle expands/collapses all the tables. Couldn't find anything better without resorting to even clunkier CSS/custom JS. —[[User:Atlas|Atlas]] ([[User talk:Atlas|talk]]) 15:16, 27 August 2013 (WEST)
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| − | : Well, the only thing I don't like is that semantically, it just doesn't make sense, and it doesn't really fit into the flow of the table to have results there like that. The ID also becomes clunky, as I figured out when designing the [[Template:YouTube video]] before I realized embedding videos wasn't possible. I'm not exactly sure what the best solution is in this case. Popovers (example in [http://getbootstrap.com/javascript/#popovers Bootstrap JS] make more sense but they can't really be viewed together. The expansion is clunky, but it makes sense and can be compared with other teams. There's got to be a better way, but what? [[User:Thesupremecommander|Thesupremecommander]] ([[User talk:Thesupremecommander|talk]]) 21:18, 27 August 2013 (WEST)
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| − | ::I don't really understand what you mean when you say it doesn't make sense semantically. I'm not a design/web expert at all, just a hobbyist, so this is just a question purely out of interest. I personally don't see any other way to integrate the results into the table without completely breaking it, as hover solutions are out of the problem, if we want to be able to show multiple teams' results, and at the moment, the way it expands the left-side cells isn't at all presentable, and even with vertical align set to top it just looks hideous.
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| − | ::Maybe we should consider moving the results to a different place? Either have a full match record of all teams underneath the standings (works for Liquipedia, but they have a lot less matches to cover), or just move it all to team pages and call it a day? Or make one of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League_2009-10#Results these]? —[[User:Atlas|Atlas]] ([[User talk:Atlas|talk]]) 16:30, 28 August 2013 (WEST)
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| − | ::: Semantics as in logic, pretty much. What could be done is moving the match records to the team sections within the article where the team rosters are currently listed. I don't think there is a good way to make it work within the table itself. [[User:Thesupremecommander|Thesupremecommander]] ([[User talk:Thesupremecommander|talk]]) 18:18, 28 August 2013 (WEST)
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| − | ::::Agreed on both points. —[[User:Atlas|Atlas]] ([[User talk:Atlas|talk]]) 18:59, 28 August 2013 (WEST)
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