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== Week maps ==
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One useful addition to the "This Week's Maps" section would be to change the map titles to their in-game names (ie. cp_gullywash_final1) so that people don't need to go any further than the front page if they want to know what map they might need to put on a server, or 'changelevel' to.
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The benefit is, comp.tf is easy to remember and people can use the in-game browser to find the front page and figure out what version of a map they need to be using. It's not always the case that the 'latest' version of a map is being used, or that the name of such is easily memorised. [[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 04:09, 15 December 2013 (WET)
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== discussion meta ==
 
== discussion meta ==
 
Where would be the right place to discuss how the Map articles are designed? Same thing about the League pages. Which, is the correct page to be talking about classes (groups) of pages? I want to see certain things happen across all League articles, and I don't know where to stage a discussion. [[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 07:07, 10 July 2013 (WEST)
 
Where would be the right place to discuss how the Map articles are designed? Same thing about the League pages. Which, is the correct page to be talking about classes (groups) of pages? I want to see certain things happen across all League articles, and I don't know where to stage a discussion. [[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 07:07, 10 July 2013 (WEST)
==Leagues to include in weapons table==
 
For my weapon bans table, I don't know how many leagues is too many to include, I also don't know if there will be people interested in updating the banlists for the smaller leagues, should we include them.
 
Regardless, here my list so far.
 
{|
 
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* CEVO 6v6
 
* ESEA 6v6
 
* ETF2L 6v6
 
* ozfortress 6v6 (OWL)
 
* UGC 6v6
 
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* CEVO HL
 
* ETF2L HL
 
* ozfortress HL
 
* UGC HL
 
|}
 
 
any other leagues?
 
[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 13:21, 9 July 2013 (WEST)
 
 
 
==Weapon Page Template==
 
==Weapon Page Template==
 
Let me know what you think.
 
Let me know what you think.
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= '''Templates''' =
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== '''Templates''' ==
 
This site could use some. I don't know enough 'wiki' to not stuff this up, does anyone know wiki-fu?
 
This site could use some. I don't know enough 'wiki' to not stuff this up, does anyone know wiki-fu?
 
An About template (disambiguation hatnote), intext citation which point to footnotes, stub articles, ??? . I created [[Template:Hatnote]] already.  
 
An About template (disambiguation hatnote), intext citation which point to footnotes, stub articles, ??? . I created [[Template:Hatnote]] already.  
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'''The name of the map''' below the image can link to the maps' page on our wiki, as per normal. -[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 08:38, 6 July 2013 (WEST)
 
'''The name of the map''' below the image can link to the maps' page on our wiki, as per normal. -[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 08:38, 6 July 2013 (WEST)
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== Whitespace ==
 
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Please remove the extra blank lines at the head of this page, it adds disgusting whitespace :P [[Special:Contributions/130.215.168.34|130.215.168.34]] 02:07, 3 March 2014 (CST)
== Class Headings (Offense, Defense, Support) ==
 
 
 
They are misleading and of little relevance to the competitive formats played. Would like to remove that heading as per Koobadoobs -- http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/9921-comp-tf-a-competitive-tf2-wiki/3#post-147997
 
 
 
Now it's been changed to Generalists vs Specialists... which is really just the 6s mentality and doesn't fit in with how HL plays out... should we just leave it?  I'm beginning to think just leaving them without headings is the best way to go--[[User:Koobadoobs|Koobadoobs]] ([[User talk:Koobadoobs|talk]]) 19:32, 2 July 2013 (WEST)
 
 
 
Maybe no headings at all would be the best way yes, this way we are not "favoring" any gamemode over the other. If there's an heading it should be much more specific, like Pick class for spy and sniper, Damage Dealer for Demo, etc... But even then it wouldn't apply to both gamemodes.
 
 
 
--[[User:Kaneco|Kaneco]] ([[User talk:Kaneco|talk]]) 01:40, 3 July 2013 (WEST)
 
 
 
Something along this diagram? Still working on how it would be formatted in Wiki-Markup. http://i.imgur.com/rD34TzU.png
 
 
 
[[User:Shadowtroop|Shadowtroop]] ([[User talk:Shadowtroop|talk]]) 12:46, 3 July 2013 (WEST)
 
 
 
Exactly, although  I think that diagram would be very useful for an article of its own talking about class mechanics and the general metagame
 
 
 
--[[User:Kaneco|Kaneco]] ([[User talk:Kaneco|talk]]) 23:40, 3 July 2013 (WEST)
 
 
 
I've made a change to the class layout (Core: Solly, Demo, Heavy, Med | Support: Pyro, Engi | Picks: Scout, Sniper, Spy)
 
 
 
[[User:Shadowtroop|Shadowtroop]] ([[User talk:Shadowtroop|talk]]) 02:27, 4 July 2013 (WEST)
 
 
 
+1 to no headings. Scouts are themselves generalists rather than specialists,i.e. not simply a pick class. Having these kinds of headings stir up more debate than they settle. -[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 09:21, 4 July 2013 (WEST)
 
 
 
== UGC 6s bans ==
 
 
 
Currently every weapon only has four optional bans
 
 
 
6s_legal = Yes
 
hl_legal = Yes
 
etf2l_6s_legal = No
 
etf2l_hl_legal = Yes
 
 
 
When there should be UGC 6s and even CEVO bans added.
 
[[User:Peakay|Peakay]] ([[User talk:Peakay|talk]]) 18:39, 3 July 2013 (WEST)
 
 
 
Weapon templates should definitely be improved and we should stick with one final format for now.
 
 
 
--[[User:Kaneco|Kaneco]] ([[User talk:Kaneco|talk]]) 23:40, 3 July 2013 (WEST)
 
 
 
I started a new template for bans on class pages -_-' .[[Heavy#Weapons|Click]]. If we're adding more leagues to the weapon ban lists (good idea), this'll have to change too. -[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 05:38, 4 July 2013 (WEST)
 
 
 
I rushed to it and created tables for soldier and medic. Is this the template we'll use, just add some more leagues? Also, for the league bans, instead of making a column with "ESEA 6s", etc... maybe replace it with "Legal in"..?[[User:Kawaii|Kawaii]] ([[User talk:Kawaii|talk]]) 09:27, 4 July 2013 (WEST)
 
 
 
Weapon templates should really be standardized accross the entire wiki, your template is OK kawaii,but the main goal of templates is an automatic way of adding content,what you are doing is creating a template for each class slot, what should be done is create the same template for use in all class slots for all classes, with variables that change depending on user input, that's how it should be done because it really diminishes the work in the future to update the templates, right now if youwere to update the templates youwould have to edit all the ones you created, with a single template you would edit that one and it would change accross the entire site.
 
Take a look [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:A_quick_guide_to_templates here] or [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template here] to view how to create templates with variablesand check [[Template:Team_infobox|here]] for a current example being used in the wiki.
 
 
 
I made a quick mock up in paint, please don't take it seriously, but it's a bit more compact then the ones in use and I feel it would make up more space for what we really need to talk about which is strategies and uses of that specific weapons in each format. Not sure what you think about it. http://i.imgur.com/IjPpzkZ.jpg
 
 
 
Also, I'm still not entirely sure weapons should be talked about in the main class page or only on the specific class page for each gamemode, what do you think? The problem here is that if we talk on the main page, visitors can see the difference in bans from one game mode to another where if we talk on the specific gamemode page it wouldn't have that much of a comparision purpose
 
 
 
--[[User:Kaneco|Kaneco]] ([[User talk:Kaneco|talk]]) 10:00, 4 July 2013 (WEST)
 
 
 
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Yeah that mock up image is better than what I had. -[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 10:14, 4 July 2013 (WEST)
 
 
 
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== 暗い悲しみへの前奏曲 - これはあなた ==
 
 
 
ファイナルファンタジー2
 
 
 
心の中であなたとシオニズム戦士
 
彼らは、レンヌ、皇帝率いる帝国侵略の心臓部で、皇帝が主導的な役割を捕獲し、主人公の家を破壊した。反乱軍、市内で密かに後の主人公の帝国軍に対して鉱石武器、破壊された大規模な軍艦、最後の魔法に対してYIN元フィリピン、彼は決勝ラウンドで皇帝の4ファウル、戦争の廃止によって生じるコストを苦戦犯罪者の仲間の数。
 
 
 
ファイナルファンタジー7
 
 
 
惑星の悲しい運命
 
数年前、それは生物の裏(ジェノア)に埋もれて魔法の光エネルギーと呼ばれていた、電力会社の生産を研究するためにそれを使用する、彼らは新羅と呼ばれる生きている動物のサメに浸漬発見され、それゆえ、それは除外、世界最大となりますMAKOは、人々の能力を向上させるが、酷使がモンスターに人々を導くことができる。世界の総エネルギー炉サメサメ、彼らは試験体が台無しに失敗しました。これは惑星アポトーシスを乱獲、地球上の非再生可能エネルギー、サバ、です。ヒーローは、反神羅組織AVALANCHE 、アオザメの本質を知ってもらう過程で新羅と紛争から地球を戦うし、保存し始めた。
 
 
 
ファイナルファンタジー3
 
 
 
クリスタル輝度物語
 
彼らは怪物の地震を生成するために地下深く根関与クリスタルランプを含んでいても、どのような静かな老人世界人権巨大な、遠大な、暗い悲しみへの前奏曲 - これはあなたがそうでないと言うつもりですかですそこから、啓示のための光を受光するのかすかな希望をそれはまだ魂4に些細なことではない何かを持ってされます
 
  
[http://www.info-rmt.jp/game/ff14 ff14 rmt]
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I think I fixed it, let me know if it's good for you. --[[User:Kaneco|Kaneco]] ([[User talk:Kaneco|talk]]) 10:50, 3 March 2014 (CST)
  
== 機能はクライアントがそれを開発 ==
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== Ashville Image ==
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The ashville.png is a non-existent file, ashville.jpg however is an existing screenshot of ashville used on the ashville page so a quick change for that image to used ashville.jpg rather than ashville.png would put an image of the map on the frontpage<br />
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Added ashville.png - it's slightly larger and takes in a bit more of the map in the image. --[[User:Efefknee|Efefknee]] ([[User talk:Efefknee|talk]]) 06:41, 17 March 2015 (CDT)
  
私たちの現在の統計システムでは、各職種やデッキのための情報を収集するための具体的な計画を持っていません。特に強力なバージョン、またはどのように高い勝利のカードデッキの例では、一部のカード。我々はまた、競争のデッキを観察するという考えは、まだ具体的な詳細がある。
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== Weapon pages have been created ==
  
私は私がプレイするのに十分なこのデッキラダーを試してみたいとき、多くの人々は、 3枚の独自のセットを持って知っているが、相手は50-50を行っ勝利に従っているときので、マッチングシステムを選択する。
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Every single weapon that has a link on a classes page now have redirects (except a few).
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If anyone wants to then go and edit these pages so they contain information instead of redirects they may.[[User:Rezh|Rezh]] ([[User talk:Rezh|talk]]) 06:56, 12 April 2015 (CDT)
  
新ラダーモデルは非常に異なるものになります、基準値は、ラダーではなく試合よりもランクマッチします。たとえば、 25怒っひよこからあなたの新しい梯子を開いたときに関係なく、ゲーム内の他の雛の前ランクとはしごの、あなたは意志、遊ぶようになった。
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== New featured article ==
  
一部のデータを表示する機能はクライアントがそれを開発?たとえば、独自のゲームの結果、最も使用される職業を見ることができます。
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Could we get a new featured article on the front page please? The current one has been here for a while. --[[User:Rezh|Rezh]] ([[User talk:Rezh|talk]]) 00:34, 25 April 2015 (CDT)
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: I would have liked to write in the recent InfoShow 2015 LAN, but it seems like there isn't much information available about it. Do you have anything you want to put up in the featured article? --[[User:Efefknee|Efefknee]] ([[User talk:Efefknee|talk]]) 10:26, 25 April 2015 (CDT)
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:: Seeing as the [[BBall]] and the [[BBall CompTF]] articles just left <nowiki>{{stub}}</nowiki> status, I think they should be shown for a month or two to bring more attention to a little-known competitive format. --[[User:Rezh|Rezh]] ([[User talk:Rezh|talk]]) 05:40, 26 April 2015 (CDT)
  
これは、独自のデータを見てみたい選手から自分の遊ぶキャリアだけでなく、自分のランキングをフィードバックを受け取るまで測定されている。もちろん我々はより多くのデータ表示機能を開発するだけでなく、ゲームのインターフェイスの設計が良くなるが、今の私たちは、ゲームがあまりにも多くのデータを持っている必要はありません。将来のバージョンでは、我々はあまりにも多くの不必要なデータを追加しませんが、これはほぼ確実に我々の焦点になります。
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== Advert concerns ==
  
[http://www.info-rmt.jp/game/ff14 ff14 rmt]
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Since I don't think a wall of text should be copy-pasted here, I will link two threads that contain a few concerns I have about the addition of adverts on this wiki:<br />
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* http://www.teamfortress.tv/30501/<br />
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* http://steamcommunity.com/groups/comptf/discussions/0/487876568232818713/<br />
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--[[User:Garlic|garlic]] ([[User talk:Garlic|talk]]) 18:34, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 18:34, 13 December 2015

Week maps

One useful addition to the "This Week's Maps" section would be to change the map titles to their in-game names (ie. cp_gullywash_final1) so that people don't need to go any further than the front page if they want to know what map they might need to put on a server, or 'changelevel' to.

The benefit is, comp.tf is easy to remember and people can use the in-game browser to find the front page and figure out what version of a map they need to be using. It's not always the case that the 'latest' version of a map is being used, or that the name of such is easily memorised. Maxim (talk) 04:09, 15 December 2013 (WET)


discussion meta

Where would be the right place to discuss how the Map articles are designed? Same thing about the League pages. Which, is the correct page to be talking about classes (groups) of pages? I want to see certain things happen across all League articles, and I don't know where to stage a discussion. Maxim (talk) 07:07, 10 July 2013 (WEST)

Weapon Page Template

Let me know what you think.

http://comp.tf/wiki/Conniver%27s_Kunai

Shadowtroop (talk) 14:48, 5 July 2013 (WEST)

Looks way too detailed. I think we don't actually need pages for separate weapons, but even if, we don't need to go over every single gamemode, as the playstyle on all of them will be similar, due to the upsides/downsides of each weapon. --Atlas (talk) 17:27, 5 July 2013 (WEST)

For the more technical weapons (Kunai, FaN, All the medigus) it is most definetely required. But for things like the shovel, I can understand what you mean.

Shadowtroop (talk) 02:42, 6 July 2013 (WEST)

Homepage suggestions

Maybe add a table to the home page with the current champions for every league would be good for newcomers to see who to look up to? Tell me what you think. --Kaneco (talk) 01:40, 3 July 2013 (WEST)

I've been meaning to make an ongoing/upcoming events page. May get on that soonish. --Atlas (talk) 17:27, 5 July 2013 (WEST)


Templates

This site could use some. I don't know enough 'wiki' to not stuff this up, does anyone know wiki-fu? An About template (disambiguation hatnote), intext citation which point to footnotes, stub articles, ??? . I created Template:Hatnote already.

Maxim (talk) 19:17, 1 July 2013 (WEST)

Will look into that tomorrow

--Kaneco (talk) 01:40, 3 July 2013 (WEST)

Well what I discovered is that most templates used on other wikis have no extension dependencies, but they have a lot of other templates dependencies, so for example importing a player infobox template from liquipedia would need not only to import that template but 10-15 other templates used in it, which is not feasible. So the best solution is to create them ourselves, you can look up here how to do it here

--Kaneco (talk) 23:40, 3 July 2013 (WEST)

Sure, take it case by case though. Some of those dependencies might be necessary to port anyway. -Maxim (talk) 05:33, 4 July 2013 (WEST)

Will get cracking on these. --Atlas (talk) 17:27, 5 July 2013 (WEST)

Maps

The problem is, this convention looks really ugly when in the title of the page (see:Cp_granary) The first letter is forced to be capitalised (no good), and you can't see the underscore as it's covered by the line break. A layout change needs to happen should this one be implemented. -Maxim (talk) 06:13, 2 July 2013 (WEST)

Map pages should be named in full with no version numbers (ex: koth_viaduct_pro not koth_viaduct_pro_v5, cp_process not cp_process_b3) , and map images as well, with the exact same name, at least for thumbnail purposes to be easier to use in templates, if anyone has time please start renaming map images to the proper name without version (I mean do this only for the main thumbnail of the map (ex: cp_granary.png) for specific images of version or other areas of the map let it be). If maps have different versions these should be talked about inside the map page not in the title Also, I transformed the mainpage table with this week maps into a template, but we need to rename the map pages and map images first before using it so it works well

Template:Weekmaps

--Kaneco (talk) 23:40, 3 July 2013 (WEST)


I reckon a good use for that table, would be to link the images of the Week's maps, to our wiki page for that week in the season of the league. Those pages can be used to link to any relevant content for that week. Like a Media Centre.

  • Notable matches
  • Casts
  • Links to logs
  • VODs
  • Links to the weeks matchups.
  • written content

A navbox would be useful to navigate though each week of a season (in a league).

The name of the map below the image can link to the maps' page on our wiki, as per normal. -Maxim (talk) 08:38, 6 July 2013 (WEST)

Whitespace

Please remove the extra blank lines at the head of this page, it adds disgusting whitespace :P 130.215.168.34 02:07, 3 March 2014 (CST)

I think I fixed it, let me know if it's good for you. --Kaneco (talk) 10:50, 3 March 2014 (CST)

Ashville Image

The ashville.png is a non-existent file, ashville.jpg however is an existing screenshot of ashville used on the ashville page so a quick change for that image to used ashville.jpg rather than ashville.png would put an image of the map on the frontpage
Added ashville.png - it's slightly larger and takes in a bit more of the map in the image. --Efefknee (talk) 06:41, 17 March 2015 (CDT)

Weapon pages have been created

Every single weapon that has a link on a classes page now have redirects (except a few). If anyone wants to then go and edit these pages so they contain information instead of redirects they may.Rezh (talk) 06:56, 12 April 2015 (CDT)

New featured article

Could we get a new featured article on the front page please? The current one has been here for a while. --Rezh (talk) 00:34, 25 April 2015 (CDT)

I would have liked to write in the recent InfoShow 2015 LAN, but it seems like there isn't much information available about it. Do you have anything you want to put up in the featured article? --Efefknee (talk) 10:26, 25 April 2015 (CDT)
Seeing as the BBall and the BBall CompTF articles just left {{stub}} status, I think they should be shown for a month or two to bring more attention to a little-known competitive format. --Rezh (talk) 05:40, 26 April 2015 (CDT)

Since I don't think a wall of text should be copy-pasted here, I will link two threads that contain a few concerns I have about the addition of adverts on this wiki:

--garlic (talk) 18:34, 13 December 2015 (UTC)