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= '''Templates''' =
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== Week maps ==
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One useful addition to the "This Week's Maps" section would be to change the map titles to their in-game names (ie. cp_gullywash_final1) so that people don't need to go any further than the front page if they want to know what map they might need to put on a server, or 'changelevel' to.
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The benefit is, comp.tf is easy to remember and people can use the in-game browser to find the front page and figure out what version of a map they need to be using. It's not always the case that the 'latest' version of a map is being used, or that the name of such is easily memorised. [[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 04:09, 15 December 2013 (WET)
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== discussion meta ==
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Where would be the right place to discuss how the Map articles are designed? Same thing about the League pages. Which, is the correct page to be talking about classes (groups) of pages? I want to see certain things happen across all League articles, and I don't know where to stage a discussion. [[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 07:07, 10 July 2013 (WEST)
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==Weapon Page Template==
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Let me know what you think.
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http://comp.tf/wiki/Conniver%27s_Kunai
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[[User:Shadowtroop|Shadowtroop]] ([[User talk:Shadowtroop|talk]]) 14:48, 5 July 2013 (WEST)
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:Looks way too detailed. I think we don't actually need pages for separate weapons, but even if, we don't need to go over every single gamemode, as the playstyle on all of them will be similar, due to the upsides/downsides of each weapon. --[[User:Atlas|Atlas]] ([[User talk:Atlas|talk]]) 17:27, 5 July 2013 (WEST)
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For the more technical weapons (Kunai, FaN, All the medigus) it is most definetely required. But for things like the shovel, I can understand what you mean.
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[[User:Shadowtroop|Shadowtroop]] ([[User talk:Shadowtroop|talk]]) 02:42, 6 July 2013 (WEST)
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== Homepage suggestions ==
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Maybe add a table to the home page with the current champions for every league would be good for newcomers to see who to look up to? Tell me what you think.
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--[[User:Kaneco|Kaneco]] ([[User talk:Kaneco|talk]]) 01:40, 3 July 2013 (WEST)
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:I've been meaning to make an ongoing/upcoming events page. May get on that soonish. --[[User:Atlas|Atlas]] ([[User talk:Atlas|talk]]) 17:27, 5 July 2013 (WEST)
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== '''Templates''' ==
 
This site could use some. I don't know enough 'wiki' to not stuff this up, does anyone know wiki-fu?
 
This site could use some. I don't know enough 'wiki' to not stuff this up, does anyone know wiki-fu?
An About template (disambiguation hatnote), intext citation which point to footnotes, stub articles, ??? . I created [[Template:Hatnote]] already. - maxim
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An About template (disambiguation hatnote), intext citation which point to footnotes, stub articles, ??? . I created [[Template:Hatnote]] already.  
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[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 19:17, 1 July 2013 (WEST)
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Will look into that tomorrow
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--[[User:Kaneco|Kaneco]] ([[User talk:Kaneco|talk]]) 01:40, 3 July 2013 (WEST)
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Well what I discovered is that most templates used on other wikis have no extension dependencies, but they have a lot of other templates dependencies, so for example importing a player infobox template from liquipedia would need not only to import that template but 10-15 other templates used in it, which is not feasible. So the best solution is to create them ourselves, you can look up here how to do it [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template here]
  
= '''Competitive Team Fortress 2''' =
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--[[User:Kaneco|Kaneco]] ([[User talk:Kaneco|talk]]) 23:40, 3 July 2013 (WEST)
  
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Sure, take it case by case though. Some of those dependencies might be necessary to port anyway. -[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 05:33, 4 July 2013 (WEST)
  
In Competitive TF2 there are two main game modes: Highlander (9 vs 9) and Sixes (6 vs 6). Although these two game modes are the most common, they are not the only ones. Many members of the community make their own game modes, such as Ultiduo, BBall, Dodgeball and many others.
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:Will get cracking on these. --[[User:Atlas|Atlas]] ([[User talk:Atlas|talk]]) 17:27, 5 July 2013 (WEST)
  
== '''Highlander''' ==
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== Maps ==
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The problem is, this convention looks really ugly when in the title of the page (see:[[Cp_granary]])
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The first letter is forced to be capitalised (no good), and you can't see the underscore as it's covered by the line break. A layout change needs to happen should this one be implemented. -[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 06:13, 2 July 2013 (WEST)
  
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Map pages should be named in full with no version numbers  (ex: koth_viaduct_pro not koth_viaduct_pro_v5, cp_process not cp_process_b3) , and map images as well, with the exact same name, at least for thumbnail purposes to be easier to use in templates, if anyone has time please start renaming map images to the proper name without version (I mean do this only for the main thumbnail of the map (ex: cp_granary.png) for specific images of version or other areas of the map let it be).
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If maps have different versions these should be talked about inside the map page not in the title
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Also, I transformed the mainpage table with this week maps into a template, but we need to rename the map pages and map images first before using it so it works well
  
In the game mode Highlander there are two teams of 9 players each, one of every class. In a Highlander or HL match, teams play a variety of maps and modes, such as: Payload, Control Points and King of the Hill. Highlander is played in North America, South America, Europe, Australia, New Zealand and Asia. The two main leagues for Highlander are UGC Highlander, for North America(and some EU) and ETF2 League, for Europe.
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[[Template:Weekmaps]]
  
'''UGC Highlander'''
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--[[User:Kaneco|Kaneco]] ([[User talk:Kaneco|talk]]) 23:40, 3 July 2013 (WEST)
 
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I reckon a good use for that table, would be to link the images of the Week's maps, to our wiki page for that week in the season of the league.
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Those pages can be used to link to any relevant content for that week. Like a Media Centre.
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* Notable matches
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* Casts
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* Links to logs
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* VODs
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* Links to the weeks matchups.
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* written content
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A navbox would be useful to navigate though each week of a season (in a league).
  
UGC Highlander can be found here: (http://ugcleague.com/home_tf2h.cfm). In the UGC League there are five divisions that teams may join: Platinum, Gold, Silver, Steel and Iron (in order from Highest to Lowest). UGC League also hosts some European Highlander, but it's European league is not as big as ETF2L's league.
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'''The name of the map''' below the image can link to the maps' page on our wiki, as per normal. -[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] ([[User talk:Maxim|talk]]) 08:38, 6 July 2013 (WEST)
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== Whitespace ==
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Please remove the extra blank lines at the head of this page, it adds disgusting whitespace :P [[Special:Contributions/130.215.168.34|130.215.168.34]] 02:07, 3 March 2014 (CST)
  
'''ETF2L Highlander'''
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I think I fixed it, let me know if it's good for you. --[[User:Kaneco|Kaneco]] ([[User talk:Kaneco|talk]]) 10:50, 3 March 2014 (CST)
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ETF2L Highlander can be found here: (http://etf2l.org/leagues/recent-seasons/highlander-season-4-home/). In ETF2L there are seven divisions that teams may join, but there may only be six teams per division: Premiership, Div 1, Div 2, Div 3, Div 4, Div 5, and Div 6(in order from Highest to Lowest). ETF2L does not support North America and is mainly used for the European Competitive scene.
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== Ashville Image ==
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The ashville.png is a non-existent file, ashville.jpg however is an existing screenshot of ashville used on the ashville page so a quick change for that image to used ashville.jpg rather than ashville.png would put an image of the map on the frontpage<br />
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Added ashville.png - it's slightly larger and takes in a bit more of the map in the image. --[[User:Efefknee|Efefknee]] ([[User talk:Efefknee|talk]]) 06:41, 17 March 2015 (CDT)
  
== '''Sixes''' ==
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== Weapon pages have been created ==
  
In the game mode of Sixes there are two teams of 6 players each. The standard setup for 6 vs 6 is as follows: 2 Scouts, 2 Soldiers, 1 Demo and 1 Medic. Other classes are allowed, but are restricted in their numbers. In Sixes you will find that the only modes played are Control Points and King of the Hill. Sixes is played in North America, South America, Europe, Australia, New Zealand and Asia. The three main leagues for Sixes are UGC Sixes and ESEA Sixes for North America, and ETF2L for Europe.
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Every single weapon that has a link on a classes page now have redirects (except a few).
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If anyone wants to then go and edit these pages so they contain information instead of redirects they may.[[User:Rezh|Rezh]] ([[User talk:Rezh|talk]]) 06:56, 12 April 2015 (CDT)
  
'''UGC Sixes'''
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== New featured article ==
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UGC Sixes can be found here: (http://ugcleague.com/home_tf26.cfm). In UGC Sixes there are four divisions that teams may join: Platinum, Silver, Steel and Iron(in order from Highest to Lowest). Just like in UGC Highlander, UGC Sixes does support Europe, but is not as large as ETF2L is.
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Could we get a new featured article on the front page please? The current one has been here for a while. --[[User:Rezh|Rezh]] ([[User talk:Rezh|talk]]) 00:34, 25 April 2015 (CDT)
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: I would have liked to write in the recent InfoShow 2015 LAN, but it seems like there isn't much information available about it. Do you have anything you want to put up in the featured article? --[[User:Efefknee|Efefknee]] ([[User talk:Efefknee|talk]]) 10:26, 25 April 2015 (CDT)
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:: Seeing as the [[BBall]] and the [[BBall CompTF]] articles just left <nowiki>{{stub}}</nowiki> status, I think they should be shown for a month or two to bring more attention to a little-known competitive format. --[[User:Rezh|Rezh]] ([[User talk:Rezh|talk]]) 05:40, 26 April 2015 (CDT)
  
'''ESEA Sixes'''
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== Advert concerns ==
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ESEA Sixes can be found here: (http://play.esea.net/). ESEA is a Pay to Play league, they also require a client that must be downloaded before being able to participate in a ESEA match. In ESEA there are three divisions for Sixes: Invite, Intermediate and Open(in order from Highest to Lowest). This league is the Top of North American Sixes. High Rollers Gaming, currently the top team from this league will be traveling to Europe to i49 (Insomnia 49) to take on the top teams of Europe.
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Since I don't think a wall of text should be copy-pasted here, I will link two threads that contain a few concerns I have about the addition of adverts on this wiki:<br />
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* http://www.teamfortress.tv/30501/<br />
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* http://steamcommunity.com/groups/comptf/discussions/0/487876568232818713/<br />
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--[[User:Garlic|garlic]] ([[User talk:Garlic|talk]]) 18:34, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 18:34, 13 December 2015

Week maps

One useful addition to the "This Week's Maps" section would be to change the map titles to their in-game names (ie. cp_gullywash_final1) so that people don't need to go any further than the front page if they want to know what map they might need to put on a server, or 'changelevel' to.

The benefit is, comp.tf is easy to remember and people can use the in-game browser to find the front page and figure out what version of a map they need to be using. It's not always the case that the 'latest' version of a map is being used, or that the name of such is easily memorised. Maxim (talk) 04:09, 15 December 2013 (WET)


discussion meta

Where would be the right place to discuss how the Map articles are designed? Same thing about the League pages. Which, is the correct page to be talking about classes (groups) of pages? I want to see certain things happen across all League articles, and I don't know where to stage a discussion. Maxim (talk) 07:07, 10 July 2013 (WEST)

Weapon Page Template

Let me know what you think.

http://comp.tf/wiki/Conniver%27s_Kunai

Shadowtroop (talk) 14:48, 5 July 2013 (WEST)

Looks way too detailed. I think we don't actually need pages for separate weapons, but even if, we don't need to go over every single gamemode, as the playstyle on all of them will be similar, due to the upsides/downsides of each weapon. --Atlas (talk) 17:27, 5 July 2013 (WEST)

For the more technical weapons (Kunai, FaN, All the medigus) it is most definetely required. But for things like the shovel, I can understand what you mean.

Shadowtroop (talk) 02:42, 6 July 2013 (WEST)

Homepage suggestions

Maybe add a table to the home page with the current champions for every league would be good for newcomers to see who to look up to? Tell me what you think. --Kaneco (talk) 01:40, 3 July 2013 (WEST)

I've been meaning to make an ongoing/upcoming events page. May get on that soonish. --Atlas (talk) 17:27, 5 July 2013 (WEST)


Templates

This site could use some. I don't know enough 'wiki' to not stuff this up, does anyone know wiki-fu? An About template (disambiguation hatnote), intext citation which point to footnotes, stub articles, ??? . I created Template:Hatnote already.

Maxim (talk) 19:17, 1 July 2013 (WEST)

Will look into that tomorrow

--Kaneco (talk) 01:40, 3 July 2013 (WEST)

Well what I discovered is that most templates used on other wikis have no extension dependencies, but they have a lot of other templates dependencies, so for example importing a player infobox template from liquipedia would need not only to import that template but 10-15 other templates used in it, which is not feasible. So the best solution is to create them ourselves, you can look up here how to do it here

--Kaneco (talk) 23:40, 3 July 2013 (WEST)

Sure, take it case by case though. Some of those dependencies might be necessary to port anyway. -Maxim (talk) 05:33, 4 July 2013 (WEST)

Will get cracking on these. --Atlas (talk) 17:27, 5 July 2013 (WEST)

Maps

The problem is, this convention looks really ugly when in the title of the page (see:Cp_granary) The first letter is forced to be capitalised (no good), and you can't see the underscore as it's covered by the line break. A layout change needs to happen should this one be implemented. -Maxim (talk) 06:13, 2 July 2013 (WEST)

Map pages should be named in full with no version numbers (ex: koth_viaduct_pro not koth_viaduct_pro_v5, cp_process not cp_process_b3) , and map images as well, with the exact same name, at least for thumbnail purposes to be easier to use in templates, if anyone has time please start renaming map images to the proper name without version (I mean do this only for the main thumbnail of the map (ex: cp_granary.png) for specific images of version or other areas of the map let it be). If maps have different versions these should be talked about inside the map page not in the title Also, I transformed the mainpage table with this week maps into a template, but we need to rename the map pages and map images first before using it so it works well

Template:Weekmaps

--Kaneco (talk) 23:40, 3 July 2013 (WEST)


I reckon a good use for that table, would be to link the images of the Week's maps, to our wiki page for that week in the season of the league. Those pages can be used to link to any relevant content for that week. Like a Media Centre.

  • Notable matches
  • Casts
  • Links to logs
  • VODs
  • Links to the weeks matchups.
  • written content

A navbox would be useful to navigate though each week of a season (in a league).

The name of the map below the image can link to the maps' page on our wiki, as per normal. -Maxim (talk) 08:38, 6 July 2013 (WEST)

Whitespace

Please remove the extra blank lines at the head of this page, it adds disgusting whitespace :P 130.215.168.34 02:07, 3 March 2014 (CST)

I think I fixed it, let me know if it's good for you. --Kaneco (talk) 10:50, 3 March 2014 (CST)

Ashville Image

The ashville.png is a non-existent file, ashville.jpg however is an existing screenshot of ashville used on the ashville page so a quick change for that image to used ashville.jpg rather than ashville.png would put an image of the map on the frontpage
Added ashville.png - it's slightly larger and takes in a bit more of the map in the image. --Efefknee (talk) 06:41, 17 March 2015 (CDT)

Weapon pages have been created

Every single weapon that has a link on a classes page now have redirects (except a few). If anyone wants to then go and edit these pages so they contain information instead of redirects they may.Rezh (talk) 06:56, 12 April 2015 (CDT)

New featured article

Could we get a new featured article on the front page please? The current one has been here for a while. --Rezh (talk) 00:34, 25 April 2015 (CDT)

I would have liked to write in the recent InfoShow 2015 LAN, but it seems like there isn't much information available about it. Do you have anything you want to put up in the featured article? --Efefknee (talk) 10:26, 25 April 2015 (CDT)
Seeing as the BBall and the BBall CompTF articles just left {{stub}} status, I think they should be shown for a month or two to bring more attention to a little-known competitive format. --Rezh (talk) 05:40, 26 April 2015 (CDT)

Since I don't think a wall of text should be copy-pasted here, I will link two threads that contain a few concerns I have about the addition of adverts on this wiki:

--garlic (talk) 18:34, 13 December 2015 (UTC)