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{{Map infobox
 
{{Map infobox
 
| mapname = Granary
 
| mapname = Granary
| image = Granary.jpg
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| image = Granary_1280px.jpg
 
| maptype = [[5CP|Control Point]]
 
| maptype = [[5CP|Control Point]]
 
| currentversion = cp_granary
 
| currentversion = cp_granary
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Granary, along with Badlands, was one of the first maps played in the 6v6 competitive format. Granary is still one of the most iconic and most played maps in 6v6, and is also played occasionally in Highlander. Since the first versions of the map there have been numerous changes to it, resulting in more refined and balanced gameplay but it is still considered one of the slowest maps, this results from being an extremely big map, with very tight chokes and easily spammable, making constant stalemates and spam exchange part of the flow of the map.
 
Granary, along with Badlands, was one of the first maps played in the 6v6 competitive format. Granary is still one of the most iconic and most played maps in 6v6, and is also played occasionally in Highlander. Since the first versions of the map there have been numerous changes to it, resulting in more refined and balanced gameplay but it is still considered one of the slowest maps, this results from being an extremely big map, with very tight chokes and easily spammable, making constant stalemates and spam exchange part of the flow of the map.
  
The last update to the map was in the [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/July_10,_2013_Patch 10th of July 2013 patch] and revolved around balance and symmetry changes to level BLU and RED playing-field. Also removed and reworked plenty of hiding/jumping spots across the map.
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The last update to the map was in the [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/July_10,_2013_Patch 10th of July 2013 patch] and revolved around balance and symmetry changes to level BLU and RED playing-field. Also removed and reworked plenty of hiding / jumping spots across the map.
  
 
== Strategy ==
 
== Strategy ==
 
=== Middle point ===
 
=== Middle point ===
 
{{Map locations
 
{{Map locations
  | title = Granary - Middle point
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  | title = Granary — The middle point
  | image = Granary_Middle.jpeg
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  | image = Granary Middle.jpeg
  | area1 = garage
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  | area1 = Garage
 
  | x1 = 336px
 
  | x1 = 336px
 
  | y1 = 95px
 
  | y1 = 95px
  | area2 = choke
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  | area2 = Choke
 
  | x2 = 600px
 
  | x2 = 600px
 
  | y2 = 60px
 
  | y2 = 60px
  | area3 = balcony/catwalk
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  | area3 = Balcony / Catwalk
 
  | x3 = 479px
 
  | x3 = 479px
 
  | y3 = 37px
 
  | y3 = 37px
  | area4 = top left (crate)/ 2
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  | area4 = Top left (crate) / 2
 
  | x4 = 308px
 
  | x4 = 308px
 
  | y4 = 118px
 
  | y4 = 118px
  | area5 = top right (crate) / 3
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  | area5 = Top right (crate) / 3
 
  | x5 = 543px
 
  | x5 = 543px
 
  | y5 = 108px
 
  | y5 = 108px
  | area6 = back left (crate) / 1
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  | area6 = Back left (crate) / 1
 
  | x6 = 296px
 
  | x6 = 296px
 
  | y6 = 230px
 
  | y6 = 230px
  | area7 = back right (crate) / 4
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  | area7 = Back right (crate) / 4
 
  | x7 = 579px
 
  | x7 = 579px
 
  | y7 = 238px
 
  | y7 = 238px
  | area8 = far left
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  | area8 = Far left
 
  | x8 = 227px
 
  | x8 = 227px
 
  | y8 = 277px
 
  | y8 = 277px
  | area9 = far right
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  | area9 = Far right
 
  | x9 = 588px
 
  | x9 = 588px
 
  | y9 = 154px
 
  | y9 = 154px
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=== Second point ===
 
=== Second point ===
 
{{Map locations
 
{{Map locations
  | title = Granary, second point, yard
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  | title = Granary — The second point, yard
  | image = cp_granary second1.png
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  | image = Granary Second Point 1280px.jpg
  | area1 = choke | x1=102px | y1=4px
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  | area1 = Choke | x1=102px | y1=4px
  | area2 = window | x2=338px | y2=31px
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  | area2 = Window | x2=338px | y2=31px
  | area3 = garage | x3=469px | y3=80px
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  | area3 = Garage | x3=469px | y3=80px
  | area4 = left yard | x4=270px | y4=228px
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  | area4 = Left yard | x4=270px | y4=228px
  | area5 = right yard | x5=600px | y5=228px
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  | area5 = Right yard | x5=600px | y5=228px
 
}}
 
}}
 
{{Map locations
 
{{Map locations
  | title = Granary, second point, left yard view
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  | title = Granary — The second point, left yard view
  | image = cp_granary second2.png
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  | image = Granary Second Point 2 1280px.jpg
  | area1 = dropdown | x1=667px | y1=58px
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  | area1 = Dropdown | x1=667px | y1=58px
 
  | area2 = Z | x2=282px | y2=157px
 
  | area2 = Z | x2=282px | y2=157px
  | area3 = to stairs/spiral/lunchbox | x3=128px | y3=137px
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  | area3 = To stairs / Spiral / Lunchbox | x3=128px | y3=137px
  | area4 = garage | x4=722px | y4=197px
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  | area4 = Garage | x4=722px | y4=197px
  | area5 = left yard | x5=258px | y5=250px
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  | area5 = Left yard | x5=258px | y5=250px
 
}}
 
}}
 
{{Map locations
 
{{Map locations
  | title = Granary, second point, inside view
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  | title = Granary — The second point, inside view
  | image = cp_granary second3.png
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  | image = Granary Second Point 3 1280px.jpg
  | area1 = dropdown | x1=88px | y1=23px
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  | area1 = Dropdown | x1=88px | y1=23px
  | area2 = top | x2=53px | y2=169px
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  | area2 = Top | x2=53px | y2=169px
  | area3 = left | x3=76px | y3=274px
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  | area3 = Left | x3=76px | y3=274px
  | area4 = stairs/spiral | x4=312px | y4=307px
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  | area4 = Stairs / spiral | x4=312px | y4=307px
  | area5 = lunchbox | x5=580px | y5=356px
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  | area5 = Lunchbox | x5=580px | y5=356px
 
}}
 
}}
 
The second point is very characteristic in the fact that it's divided into two distinct, separated areas, with their respective chokepoints: the yard and the building. That means a defending team can choose to hold each of the two areas, depending on the situation and advantages. The second point is the most prone to stalemates in the whole map.
 
The second point is very characteristic in the fact that it's divided into two distinct, separated areas, with their respective chokepoints: the yard and the building. That means a defending team can choose to hold each of the two areas, depending on the situation and advantages. The second point is the most prone to stalemates in the whole map.
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==== Attacking ====
 
==== Attacking ====
 
Pushing the second point is heavily dependent on the other team's positioning. If the enemy is holding in the yard, the following push routes should be considered:
 
Pushing the second point is heavily dependent on the other team's positioning. If the enemy is holding in the yard, the following push routes should be considered:
* '''Through left''' - The distance between the both teams is bigger than usual, and the entrance is very narrow, and therefore vulnerable to spam.
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* '''Through left''' The distance between the both teams is bigger than usual, and the entrance is very narrow, and therefore vulnerable to spam.
* '''Through the window''' - Often the most preferable push. It offers the shortest route to the enemy combo, allowing the Pocket Soldier to rocket jump directly into the enemies and dealing damage for the team to follow up on.
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* '''Through the window''' Often the most preferable push. It offers the shortest route to the enemy combo, allowing the Pocket Soldier to rocket jump directly into the enemies and dealing damage for the team to follow up on.
* '''Through garage''' - This is the biggest entrance to the point, and not directly spammable. This allows the Medic to use the ÜberCharge a few seconds later, which prolongs the window of opportunity for the pushing team. The pushing team however has to be wary of the dropdown area, as it offers a good opportunity for the Roaming Soldier to cause the Medic to use early or even drop his ÜberCharge.
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* '''Through garage''' This is the biggest entrance to the point, and not directly spammable. This allows the Medic to use the ÜberCharge a few seconds later, which prolongs the window of opportunity for the pushing team. The pushing team however has to be wary of the dropdown area, as it offers a good opportunity for the Roaming Soldier to cause the Medic to use early or even drop his ÜberCharge.
 
When pushing the yard area, the team should seek to acquire a pick or two, which causes the enemy to be unable to keep holding inside the building and forces them to back up to the last point.
 
When pushing the yard area, the team should seek to acquire a pick or two, which causes the enemy to be unable to keep holding inside the building and forces them to back up to the last point.
  
 
Attacking the enemy team holding inside the building can be done in following ways:
 
Attacking the enemy team holding inside the building can be done in following ways:
* '''Through shutter''' - The most obvious route to the second point, but subject to significant amounts of spam from the Demoman. That forces the Medic to ÜberCharge almost immediately after going through the door.
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* '''Through shutter''' The most obvious route to the second point, but subject to significant amounts of spam from the Demoman. That forces the Medic to ÜberCharge almost immediately after going through the door.
* '''Through Z''' - Z is a very narrow walkway, but it is significantly closer to where the combo usually holds. As with shutter, this push pretty much requires an early ÜberCharge, unless the enemy Demoman is down.
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* '''Through Z''' Z is a very narrow walkway, but it is significantly closer to where the combo usually holds. As with shutter, this push pretty much requires an early ÜberCharge, unless the enemy Demoman is down.
* '''Through lunchbox/top''' - This push relies on being able to get to the lunchbox area relatively safe, which is not possible unless the flank classes are down or weakened. It is very effective however, as it cuts off potential escape routes if performed early enough.
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* '''Through lunchbox / top''' This push relies on being able to get to the lunchbox area relatively safe, which is not possible unless the flank classes are down or weakened. It is very effective however, as it cuts off potential escape routes if performed early enough.
  
 
Due to the nature of the point, a Demoman pick is usually a sign to push, as his stickies prevent the pushing team from taking ground without an ÜberCharge. As most of the action takes place indoors, a Soldier pick is usually good enough as well.
 
Due to the nature of the point, a Demoman pick is usually a sign to push, as his stickies prevent the pushing team from taking ground without an ÜberCharge. As most of the action takes place indoors, a Soldier pick is usually good enough as well.
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=== Last point ===
 
=== Last point ===
 
{{Map locations
 
{{Map locations
  | title = Granary, last point
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  | title = Granary — The last point
  | image = cp_granary last.png
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  | image = Granary Last Point 1280px.jpg
  | area1 = top right | x1=476px | y1=29px
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  | area1 = Top right | x1=476px | y1=29px
  | area2 = top left | x2=357px | y2=38px
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  | area2 = Top left | x2=357px | y2=38px
  | area3 = left | x3=254px | y3=63px
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  | area3 = Left | x3=254px | y3=63px
  | area4 = right | x4=553px | y4=98px
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  | area4 = Right | x4=553px | y4=98px
  | area5 = left yard | x5=225px | y5=164px
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  | area5 = Left yard | x5=225px | y5=164px
  | area6 = right yard | x6=571px | y6=171px
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  | area6 = Right yard | x6=571px | y6=171px
  | area7 = upper pipe | x7=464px | y7=194px
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  | area7 = Upper pipe | x7=464px | y7=194px
  | area8 = lower pipe | x8=324px | y8=223px
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  | area8 = Lower pipe | x8=324px | y8=223px
  | area9 = right spawn | x9=557px | y9=327px
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  | area9 = Right spawn | x9=557px | y9=327px
  | area10 = left spawn | x10=225px | y10=343px
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  | area10 = Left spawn | x10=225px | y10=343px
 
}}
 
}}
  

Revision as of 07:47, 23 March 2014

Template:Map infobox Granary is a 5CP map created by Valve, and it is one of the 6 original TF2 maps. It is a staple in the 6v6 leagues and is notorious for being prone to stalemates.

History

Granary, along with Badlands, was one of the first maps played in the 6v6 competitive format. Granary is still one of the most iconic and most played maps in 6v6, and is also played occasionally in Highlander. Since the first versions of the map there have been numerous changes to it, resulting in more refined and balanced gameplay but it is still considered one of the slowest maps, this results from being an extremely big map, with very tight chokes and easily spammable, making constant stalemates and spam exchange part of the flow of the map.

The last update to the map was in the 10th of July 2013 patch and revolved around balance and symmetry changes to level BLU and RED playing-field. Also removed and reworked plenty of hiding / jumping spots across the map.

Strategy

Middle point

Granary — The middle point
Granary Middle.jpeg
Garage
Choke
Balcony / Catwalk
Top left (crate) / 2
Top right (crate) / 3
Back left (crate) / 1
Back right (crate) / 4
Far left
Far right

The Granary middle point is characterised best by the big height advantage provided by the four crates around the point. That shifts the class influence to Soldiers, as they're the best at exploiting it. This also means Scouts have less of an impact than usual.

The Demoman can choose one of the three rollouts: through the left entrance, to catwalk or through garage. The catwalk rollout differs from the other two in the fact that it aims for the Demoman and the Medic to take higher ground after acquiring an advantage in the fight, which significantly improves the chance of a won midfight.

Many teams will use double Soldier jumps to deal damage to the rest of the team that is on the lower ground: the Demoman, the Scouts and the Medic. Due to the layout of the point, the Scout's ability of denying jumping Soldiers is hampered. Because of that, one of the Scouts in a team will usually seek to kill the enemy Demoman, while the other stays by his Demoman to prevent the enemy from doing so.

Second point

Granary — The second point, yard
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Choke
Window
Garage
Left yard
Right yard
Granary — The second point, left yard view
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Dropdown
Z
To stairs / Spiral / Lunchbox
Garage
Left yard
Granary — The second point, inside view
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Dropdown
Top
Left
Stairs / spiral
Lunchbox

The second point is very characteristic in the fact that it's divided into two distinct, separated areas, with their respective chokepoints: the yard and the building. That means a defending team can choose to hold each of the two areas, depending on the situation and advantages. The second point is the most prone to stalemates in the whole map.

Attacking

Pushing the second point is heavily dependent on the other team's positioning. If the enemy is holding in the yard, the following push routes should be considered:

  • Through left — The distance between the both teams is bigger than usual, and the entrance is very narrow, and therefore vulnerable to spam.
  • Through the window — Often the most preferable push. It offers the shortest route to the enemy combo, allowing the Pocket Soldier to rocket jump directly into the enemies and dealing damage for the team to follow up on.
  • Through garage — This is the biggest entrance to the point, and not directly spammable. This allows the Medic to use the ÜberCharge a few seconds later, which prolongs the window of opportunity for the pushing team. The pushing team however has to be wary of the dropdown area, as it offers a good opportunity for the Roaming Soldier to cause the Medic to use early or even drop his ÜberCharge.

When pushing the yard area, the team should seek to acquire a pick or two, which causes the enemy to be unable to keep holding inside the building and forces them to back up to the last point.

Attacking the enemy team holding inside the building can be done in following ways:

  • Through shutter — The most obvious route to the second point, but subject to significant amounts of spam from the Demoman. That forces the Medic to ÜberCharge almost immediately after going through the door.
  • Through Z — Z is a very narrow walkway, but it is significantly closer to where the combo usually holds. As with shutter, this push pretty much requires an early ÜberCharge, unless the enemy Demoman is down.
  • Through lunchbox / top — This push relies on being able to get to the lunchbox area relatively safe, which is not possible unless the flank classes are down or weakened. It is very effective however, as it cuts off potential escape routes if performed early enough.

Due to the nature of the point, a Demoman pick is usually a sign to push, as his stickies prevent the pushing team from taking ground without an ÜberCharge. As most of the action takes place indoors, a Soldier pick is usually good enough as well.

Defending

Defending the second point relies heavily on denying the other team space by the means of spam. It's extremely important for the Demoman to stay alive, as his sticky traps and grenade spam can cover a lot of entrances simultaneously.

A good tactic is to make the enemy team use an ÜberCharge in yard, to then back up quickly indoors and use the Medic's ÜberCharge to walk out and kill the enemy. This can't be done however if the defending team loses a lot of players before backing out.

To avoid a surprise wrap-around push while holding inside, the flank needs to watch the right lunchbox area and immediately report back if any attackers are spotted, so that the combo is aware of the fact and can back out in time.

Other strategies, such as utilising the dropdown area or using a Sniper to try and get a pick from the forward respawn (requires for the player to respawn while the enemy is capturing the middle point) can also work when at a disadvantage.

Last point

Granary — The last point
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Top right
Top left
Left
Right
Left yard
Right yard
Upper pipe
Lower pipe
Right spawn
Left spawn